March, 2004

Interview

"Customs are significantly improved"

When Krishna Hari Baskota took over as the Director General of the Department of Customs in July 2003, he was expected to introduce some reforms in the customs administration emulating his previous record in the Department of Commerce. What has he achieved in the new assignment? Excerpts from an interview:

How has the Department of Customs (DOCus) changed after you took over as its Director General (DG)?

As I took over as the DG of DOCus, I felt that I had to bring about changes in two different areas. First, to improve the image of this department among the people. Second, to increase revenue collection. In my reading, the image improvement required consumer satisfaction which was to be brought about through good governance. The more transparent, accountable or interactive it becomes the more improved its image would be. And to enhance revenue collection a suitable strategic planning was necessary. For that purpose, I formulated a three-year Customs Reform Plan. My job was made easier by the budget announcement for the current fiscal year in which it was promised to bring about a three-year plan for a radical change in the customs administration. I was fortunate to be the architect of that plan. This plan has about seven main focus areas. One such area is making customs valuation scientific, i.e. making it compatible with the WTO and GATT, which meant making it practical to recognize the invoice value for the purpose of levying customs duty while checking the chances of undervaluation. Second was simplification of customs clearance, which has two aspects – cargo clearance and passenger clearance. For this, there is a working manual developed after I came in. This manual has standardized a Customs Operation Flow Chart which has been introduced in all the Customs Offices. With this, the employees of the department will not be confused about the working procedure in a new office when they get transferred from one customs office to the other.  

The third point of this plan is about automation in the customs offices. 

The fourth point of this plan is about enhancing the integrity of this department. This involves reforms in moral standards and the administrative system.

The fifth point of the plan requires introduction of a selective method for the examination of goods as it is not practical to check every consignment and every article thoroughly. 

What system have you introduced to get feedback from the users of this service about the effectiveness of the changes?

There are three different methods to get feedback from the public. First, we have started ‘public hearing’ every Monday at 2 pm at the department. I have also asked all the 29 customs offices to do the same every Sunday at 2 pm. Second, on the 15th of every alternate month according to the Nepali calendar, we hold review meetings at DOCus in which the senior level people from all the stakeholders are invited to participate. Representatives of 20-22 organizations from government, non-government and private sector, come to participate in this meeting. We present the achievements of the previous two months at the meeting and that is followed by discussions on the plans for the future. Third, we have set up a ‘help desk’ in DOCus where a gazetted officer is placed to provide any advice or counselling to the service users. This officer also handles complaints. This desk also sells revenue stamps for which the service users need not pay more than the face value. This desk verifies if the applications of the users are complete or not advising him/her to file it. It also provides information as to which employee is now looking after a certain job if the person normally assigned that duty is on leave. It also provides the templates and formats of various applications to be submitted to the Department. People are encouraged to place their grievances to this help desk. Thus it also functions as a channel of communication between DOCus and the people.

What obstacles were faced in introducing those changes?

I have seen two obstacles very clearly. There is a certain group, which resists the change, and at the same time there is another group, which is totally unaware of the change. I faced such obstacles also while trying similar changes in the Department of Commerce (DOCom). And such people are there both among the department staff as well as among the other stakeholders. The solution I have thought of is that the first group needs to be included as much as possible in the decision making process while the second group needs to be provided orientation about the changes from time to time.

The present rating system that you have introduced for the customs offices is regarded as very rudimentary as it doesn’t take into account many important aspects for the evaluation of the performance of the office. What improvements are you considering in this for the immediate future?

This rating system has been introduced with a view to create a sense of competition among the customs offices. There are twenty main tasks that these offices have to execute. They include, for example, revenue collection, returning Customs Transit Declaration (CTD) form to Calcutta, carrying out the necessary tasks for DRP refund, conduct internal audit of customs declaration forms that have been filled up, seize illegal goods, auction off the seized goods, inspect the sub-customs offices under them and the like. The rating system is based on these twenty tasks. As the most important of all these is revenue collection, there are 40 full marks assigned for this function out of 100 full marks in the rating system. Then some less important jobs are assigned six, four, three, and two marks depending upon their importance. Of the 29 customs offices, eight that are along the northern border do not have significant business. So this competition is among the remaining 22 offices. And it is in effect since the beginning of the current fiscal year, i.e. mid-July 2003. Gaur Customs stood first in Shrawan (mid-July to mid-August), Mechi Customs in the next two months, Birgunj Customs in the next two months and  Tatopani Customs in mid-December to mid-January.  And the progress has been good. In the first three months, 12 of the 22 offices could secure only 50 marks out of 100. However, in the month ended on mid-January, seven offices secured above 80 marks while nine offices secured between 66 and 80.

How did you get the idea about these reform parameters?

This is based on the practices followed in other countries. If you look for some good practices in the service delivery field, one noticeable find will be the Street Bureaucracy of Belgium. The service users there get the government services from the computers that are installed by the street side. The help desk in DOCus tries to follow this concept. The system that we have implemented for hearing the grievances of people, borrows from the practices of German administration. The Citizen’s Charter that has been introduced recently promising to complete all the work within two hours has its origin in England. It was developed by former British Prime Minister John Major. Another reform initiative is ‘Next Step Agency’ that refers to the agency which will be responsible for spearheading the next round of reforms after the existing one in the process is completed. This was developed by Margaret Thatcher, also a former British PM. We have copied also this system here and for that we create small groups of people, which will be respectively responsible for various tasks that will follow in a series. This rating system for the customs offices is one that has evolved from the practices of different business firms such as McDonald’s. They place on a screen the name of the best selling item of the month. This not only indicates the efficiency of the particular section that makes and sells that particular item, it also helps the customers to select the most in demand item. This rating of our customs offices helps the importer to select the customs checkpoint from where he can get his goods cleared very fast.

On the 52nd World Customs Day, Nepal Chamber of Commerce felicitated me. This system of honouring the civil servants by the private body is a system that has its origin in Germany. It is called People’s Bonus.

But there are also some systems original of Nepal. One such example is the work calendar that we have in our department that guides the officials about what work is to be completed on each new day. The need for such result-oriented calendar is clearly underlined in the civil service rules.

DOCus is generally perceived to be a department with high level of corruption. That was one reason why so many people from this department were charge sheeted by the CIAA last year. How changed is the situation today?

There are a couple of clear indicators to show that the level of corruption has significantly decreased in this department after the introduction of reform programs. One such evidence is that the revenue collection from customs in this fiscal year has increased compared to the same period of last year. In the first half of the fiscal year 2002-03, the revenue collected was 13 billion 40 million  rupees while in the same period of this fiscal it rose to 13 billion 960 million. Rs. 920 million more has been realized as customs this year as compared to last year despite the sluggish imports. The second evidence to it is that Pro-Public, a non-government body involved in the anti-corruption campaign, has declared DOCus as the best (which implies the least corrupt) among all the government departments. The other evidence is the revised working procedure of the department itself. It is so designed that it discourages corruption. For example, if any businessperson is not satisfied of the customs valuation by any customs office, he can file an appeal with the DG. DOCus has designated the 1st and 15th day of each Nepali calendar month for hearing on such appeals. Since the beginning of the current fiscal year, around 400 such appeals have been received and decision has been handed down on all of them. Representatives of the private sector are invited for such hearing and the decisions are made on the basis of their advice. Such transparency has automatically reduced corruption. Moreover, we have brought out about seven different publications over the last six months and they have helped in more transparency in the work of the department. 

Your explanation indicates that the big corruption scandals are reduced. But what about the petty corruptions?

When we talk about corruption, the most dangerous of all is the institutional corruption. It is such corruption which takes place with the connivance of a number of employees of the institution. It is difficult to eliminate such corruption. I am fighting against it. I can assure you that officials above my level will not be able to commit such acts as I have refused to be the carrier of corruption. When I am clean, it will be difficult for those above me to involve themselves in corrupt acts. Then the problem remains with the employees under me. For that we have those performance indicators. We are also considering corrective measures to be implemented soon. We are thinking of denying any reward to those whose performance is not good. I am also working on what should be the discipline criteria of the employees. The weekly public hearing has also been of great help. Third, if any comments appear in the media regarding this department, we immediately ask for clarifications from the office concerned and take necessary actions. It is true that some businesspeople are not doing their business by fair means. They have manipulated some of the customs employees. This means, the corruption in customs offices is to be blamed more on the side of businesspersons. Some people say that the senior clerk (Subba) at some customs office has three houses in Nepal. This may be true for some corrupt civil servant, but the businessperson who bribed that particular civil servant has three houses in USA.

To check such corruption, we have already adopted a couple of measures. First, it is made compulsory for all the customs offices to complete examining the customs declaration form within two hours of it being presented to him or her. Thus the businessman does not need to wait more than two hours at all. So he does not need to pay bribe as speed money. The customs examiner (Janchaki) is required to maintain a register with him about the customs declaration forms received and the service user has to sign the register. If the custom examiner does not complete the examination within two hours, the department will take action against him. If the employee is displeased with the businessperson, he may overvalue the consignment and charge hefty revenue. But in that case, the businessperson has the right to report this to the DOCus and action will be taken on this report within 15 days. I have given decision over more than 300 of such complaints and 50% of the decisions have been in favour of the businesspersons.

What about the network of corrupt customs employees?

To address that problem we have adopted other couple of measures. Customs employees are expected to be transferred every two years. I regard six of the customs offices (Mechi, Biratnagar, Birgunj, Bhairahawa, Tatopani and the TIA) as “A” category for the transfer purpose, and I have a policy not to transfer an employee from one A category office to another A category one. Another step being taken up to address this problem is an organizational review being carried out under the leadership of Madhukar Shumsher Rana, the senior economic advisor in the Ministry of Finance. We are also introducing a transparent system of reward and punishment that will deter corrupt practices.

What motivates the customs employees to work overtime?

This is where we smell a rat. Around 1500 employees are working under this department. They do not get over time allowance. But in deeper analysis, one motivational factor we find is the dress code and the system of providing allowance to the employees to buy the dress. There also exists a provision for providing some amount as tiffin expenses. Another motivational factor is the exposure that the employee gets with experience of working in the customs. The employees who work under this department become very efficient that makes it easy for them to work in any other department. Thus by working overtime, the employee is improving his career prospects. It is not necessary that everyone is guided only by the opportunity to do something hanky-panky.

Would you mind sharing the areas in which you want to bring further changes in the near future?

The most important mission ahead of me is the three-year reforms plan. This is what will guide me through the future. This reform project includes the suggestions of IMF, World Bank and the customs officers. Lack of resources, weak infrastructures and insufficiently trained human resource are identified as the main hindrances. So, what I have seen as important to do in the future is to bring improvements in these areas. For that I have planned for developing a Model Customs Point. We will have to introduce reforms in this model customs office and then the achievements of such office will be replicated in other customs offices. For increasing the resources I am now asking the government to set aside 0.5% of the total revenue collected by customs administration as budget for customs administration. The Revenue Consultative Committee has already recommended this. We are also planning to form a permanent standing committee at all customs which will include the stakeholders as well to manage the customs administration.

It is said that smuggling has decreased as India has been decreasing customs duties. Is it true?

In the ninth meeting of the Director Generals level of India and Nepal recently, we were pleased to share satisfaction that cross border smuggling between India and Nepal was decreasing. There are several reasons to this decrease. One is, as you rightly put it, the tariff rates in both the countries are similar today, thus removing the incentive for smuggling third country goods. Second, nearly all the goods in both these countries are in open general licensing (OGL) system. Smuggling would have taken place if one good is open in one country and banned in the other. Because the system prevailing in both these countries is the same, smuggling is checked. Third, the business community in both countries have similar access in the third countries. For example, the access to China. So there is no need for Chinese goods coming to Nepal to be smuggled to India. Fourth, because the multinational companies are manufacturing goods in both the countries, there is no need to move their goods from India to Nepal or vice-versa. In addition, the enforcement mechanism has been stronger now thanks to the improved coordination among different enforcement agencies.

It is said that the excessive discretionary powers vested in the hands of the lowly paid customs officers and clerks encourages them to be corrupt. What remedies are being introduced in this regard?

It is true that salary for the customs employees is low. I have learnt that in half of the countries of the world the salary of the employees in tax and customs departments is higher than that of those in other departments. This is both because of the higher work load as well as to encourage better moral standards. So I have asked the government to increase the salary of the customs employees. In today’s context, their salary has to be increased cent percent. Also the discretionary rights vested on the officers are excessive and they should be withdrawn gradually. The discretion is particularly in valuation. I have already drafted revised customs rules and regulations and provided it to the private sector for comments and feedback. We have already started the policy to recognize the transaction value as far as possible. If there is any doubt, we go for the record of similar goods imported earlier. This way we follow the six stages of valuation as accepted under GATT and WTO. A booklet about this process is already in circulation. We are fully discouraging the customs officers from exercising discretionary powers.

You said salary increase will reduce the corrupt practices. But past instances of doubling the salary of the employees have not resulted in reduced corruption. What special is being planned now?

When the community itself is not clean, we cannot expect one isolated sector to be clean. The Administrative Reforms Commission had suggested three methods to reduce corruption: First is preventive measure under which moral education should be given to the employees and their salary should be good, second is curative measure under which the employees indulged in corruption should be punished, and the third is promotional measure under which the employees who are not involved in corruption should be rewarded. The Civil Service Act has a provision to award a maximum of Rs. 200,000. Salary increase will be a preventive measure. Your doubt is related with the curative measure. Even after increasing the salary if corruption still exists then those indulged in such acts should be punished more severely.

It is said that DG of DOCus is constantly under pressure from various vested interest groups for transfer and posting of the staff members. How has your experience so far in this regard?

There are a good number of people who want to take benefit from their personal links with the officers. I have publicly said that no employee from my department has any access to my residence. I transfer employees based on certain measurable criteria. There is no possibility of biasedness. People also might want to visit me just to extend goodwill. But I don’t entertain even such visits and even telephone calls. Then naturally the outside pressure decreases. I do not encourage even higher ups or relatives to come to me with such recommendations. When they make such recommendations, I just laugh them off. There was one school-life friend of mine who got dejected when I didn’t go according to his pleading to transfer his relative to a place desired by him. Such pressures are now much less than they were when I had just taken up as the DG of DOCus.

How is the pressure from business community or from those outside the family relations?

There’s no pressure at all from the business community. I found that the number of businesspersons who are in import-export business is very small contrary to the general perception. Moreover, they get their work done through customs agents. When the work is easily executed at the customs checkpoints, they don’t need to come to the customs department. The local level traders located near the customs point have very small volume of business and they get their work settled at the local level itself. We recognize the invoice value of multinational companies (MNCs), the industrial raw materials, machineries, if the goods imported from India are under DRP, if the invoice is issued by the manufacturer itself and if it is issued from a developed country. So it’s no deal for the businesspersons to go through the processes at the customs checkpoints. They do not need to approach the department.

But it is said that the underinvoicing of the imports is a serious problem.

Since the professionalism among the customs staff is not well developed as yet and the customs tariff is different for similar items, the importers sometimes try to benefit by making false declarations. If the declared value is recognized under such situation, the government would lose revenue. To address this issue, we have been following the international harmonized code system which has divided the goods into 97 different groups. In Nepal we have classified the goods into six categories for simplicity for the customs purpose.

Nevertheless, the customs valuation is a burning issue. Businesspersons claim that HMG has vowed to recognize the invoice value and they demand customs to be charged based strictly on invoices. If the goods are undervalued to a great extent the customs officers have the right to increase the value of the goods based on the previous records of the same goods and charge customs duty on that base or buy the goods at that undervalued price with some adjustments for the freight and profit. Recently 103 Chinese motorbikes worth Rs. 6.5 million were bought by the customs department as it was found that this consignment was drastically under invoiced as compared to the earlier consignment. These bikes will now be sold to the public through National Trading Ltd. We are planning to buy such undervalued goods massively and for that purpose the government, including Sajha and National Trading, have promised to provide the necessary fund.

For this system to succeed, a system is introduced to circulate among customs offices the data about the goods imported and their invoice value. This helps the employees at such offices to know the reasonable transaction value of the goods imported and levy customs duty reasonably.       

It is said that an unnecessarily large number of subsidiary customs checkpoints along the Indian border is providing a large loophole for the benefit of the smugglers. Is there any plan to reduce the number of such checkpoints?

We have a total of 143 sub-customs stations and they are there as checkpoints to facilitate local level trade across the border. They have the rights to approve import and export if the value of the customs declaration form doesn’t exceed Rs. 5,000. In the bilateral talks, the Indian side has been asking to reduce the number of such subsidiary checkpoints.  We have explained to India that these posts are just to record the presence of the Nepali government at those places. Our preliminary study has indicated the need for relocating some such checkpoints and integrating some others. 

What is the progress with the computerization of the customs?

ASYCUDA is implemented at Birgunj, Biratnagar, Bhairahawa and Tribhuvan International Airport (TIA). So, around 80% customs transactions have been computerized. In this fiscal year we are planning to implement this system at three new places-Krishnanagar, Mechi and Tatopani. By then more than 90% of the customs transactions will be computerized. We are planning to implement it at Mechi Customs by mid-March.

The exporters were complaining of lack of even very simple physical facilities such as X-ray machine and weighing machines at the customs. Why is it so in spite of the DOCus being the largest collector of the state revenue?

We are considering a couple of measures in this regard. The ICD is being brought into operation at the customs point of Birgunj and it is already operated at Bhairahawa and Biratnagar points. Such facilities are available already at those places. We are also introducing BOOT concept to mobilize the private sector to run godowns at the customs checkpoints. This will first be carried out in Kailali and Mahendranagar. A committee has been set up for this purpose with a member of National Planning Commission as its Chairman and this committee has asked FNCCI to carry out the feasibility study. FNCCI is studying about it.


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