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Achieving the Millennium Development Goals Realistic, Possible?

Erna Witoelar, the former Indonesian Minister for Settlements and Regional Infrastructure, was named the first United Nations (UN) Special Ambassador for the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) for Asia and the Pacific in September 2003. UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan expressed the hope that her "talent and presence as part of the MDG Campaign will contribute reach the hearts and minds of people around the world."

How does the Millennium Campaign and your work as UN Special Ambassador for the MDGs fit within the context of the UN system, and what does your work entail?

Within the UN system there are two main supporting efforts to enable countries to reach the MDGs. One is the Millennium Project, which is helping develop the right policies to reach the goals—whether in economics, trade, or development. The other is the Millennium Campaign, which is facilitating campaigns to make sure that the process is catalyzed. Both units are directly under the Secretary General.

This is a new global solidarity momentum that must go beyond government to help countries reach the goals and increase commitments to reduce poverty, which in turn will help in achieving the rest of the goals.

My role is to get top-level commitment and generate public awareness and pressure. I am campaigning among governments, civil society, parliaments, universities, the private sector, and all other players; meeting government poverty reduction teams and national planning boards; talking at universities; giving interviews; and appearing on talk shows.

What commitments are you looking for from the region’s developing countries to further their MDG agenda?

As the goals are holistic and interrelated, the process of working together in partnerships at the national, regional, and global levels is very important. To achieve the MDGs, all stakeholders have to participate actively—not just governments. If we continue to conduct our development work in a business-as-usual way, many of us [developing countries] won’t be able to reach the goals.

Governments need to be constantly reminded of the commitments they have already made to achieve the goals and that they should be really serious and mainstream them in existing work. But the real implementation has to happen at the local level. The better local governments are able to target and develop the right interventions, the better will be the results on poverty reduction, health, sustainable development, and education.

Many countries actually have money to reach the goals, it is just that we have not been using it in an effective way. So good governance is important, like accountability, participation, transparency, and minimizing corruption.

What progress have you seen in the region toward achieving the goals?

Some countries are more advanced in the MDG process than others. Some have already reached certain goals in a short period. But they have not viewed them in a holistic way that could then be used to reach the other goals.

Countries like Malaysia, for instance, have already reached many of the goals and will be able to reach all of them by 2005, except probably Goal 7 on sustainable development of the environment. In these cases, they need to go beyond the goals to develop "MDG plus."

On Goal 3, gender and empowerment of women, the target in the Philippines is not only to eliminate gender disparity at school level but also in terms of reproductive rights, so the country can develop its own targets based on the MDGs. The better we are able to define our targets, the faster we can reach them.

What needs to be sharpened is our capacity to benchmark and note progress. There has been little work on this in the past because many of our countries have weak statistical capacities.

The Millennium Compact in Monterrey stated that international finance institutions (IFIs) should put the MDGs at the center of their country strategies and programs. Is this happening?

I don’t think so. People know the theory, people know the concept, but it is still at the conceptual level. In theory we know that to reach the MDGs we have to be more holistic. But support from IFIs is still sectoral. So the international community needs to coordinate better among itself.

The better the partnerships between IFIs and multilateral and bilateral donors, the better will be the use of resources. We have to be able to improve the use of existing resources, loans, and grants to make them more effective.

Creditors of ADB, donors, IFIs, and the UN are increasingly reforming their programs and processes toward achieving the MDGs. But if we want to reach the goals by 2015, we all need to coordinate efforts. Aid is not effective if every donor has its own strategy, each accompanied by complex procedures that overburden poor countries’ institutional capacity. We must ensure the implementation of the Rome Declaration on Harmonization.

When I was in the Government, I was very upset because ADB had its own poverty strategy, the World Bank had its own poverty strategy, and the Department for International Development of the United Kingdom had its own poverty strategy for the same country — Indonesia. We were just observers of this process. It was a case of their experts debating among themselves — about us. We don’t have ownership of these processes. It is very important that we have ownership. They don’t need to work for us, they have to work with us.

How would you like to see ADB involving itself more in the MDG agenda?

ADB should readjust its existing programs and existing approaches to better answer individual countries’ needs in reaching the MDGs. It also needs to gradually move from direct local-level project intervention to more strengthening of national and provincial capacity to develop and really implement pro-poor policies because that is our weakness.

ADB has a lot of knowledge generated over many decades. We could make more use of this. Our national governments need to be educated on good practices. There is a big turnover of policymakers in these countries, so there is a constant need to involve them again in understanding all this knowledge, instead of reinventing the wheel. ADB at the regional level could coordinate better with other regional players to be able to catalyze peer-to-peer learning of countries in this region.

Have you encountered much official cynicism about achieving the MDGs?

There is skepticism in developing countries of Asia and the Pacific that it is all just a way of packaging old stuff so that the UN, the international community, World Bank, and other IFIs can make more business for themselves.

There is also skepticism [in the developed world] that national governments in developing countries are not committed enough to the goals because they face so many distractions from internal political problems.

We have to stress that this is a global solidarity for a new approach to partnerships with better ways of measuring progress. Then we can move forward and each country can improve its ways of doing things to reach the goals. And even after they have reached the goals, they can move forward from there, because the goals themselves are very elementary and very basic.

What kind of reception have you received from governments and the public in your first six months of work on the MDG issue?

I’m pleasantly surprised to see how fast people can be "MDG-ized." As soon people realized how the MDGs are linked with their work, concerns, campaigns, they usually become interested and enthusiastic, despite some initial skepticism. Governments’ reactions vary, especially regarding the need to be more participatory in making the MDG reports. Some are quite reluctant to involve civil society from the beginning for several reasons. Some are still coordinated by the foreign ministry— maybe they don’t realize that the MDGs are not just the governments’ pledges the international community, but, most important, they are an obligation to their own people.

It’s amazing how little information on MDGs exist in most of the countries for ordinary people. The MDGs are so far only owned by the central governments, UN, and donor communities in the country. A lot still needs to be done to make them owned at the local level. It’s at the local level that poverty exists, and it’s at the local level that the MDGs can be achieved through a holistic and integrated development approach.

(Courtesy ADB review)


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